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Ben_R
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
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Ramon - thanks for making my

Ramon - thanks for making my perception of the world a little bit more clear and wide.. I told here already that I never thought that this might be a good idea - to be the single father willingly. especially when you are gay.. Ramon - can you tell us, how did your friends and your relatives took your decisions - and what did they say when you actually made this decision become the reality? I think there were some quarrels, there were people who were trying to dissuade you - as well as people who encouraged you to make this step.. what was the balance among these two opposing groups? And what did they eventually tell you - when you actually succeeded in your plans with the surrogacy?

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Patrick
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 10/18/2016 - 17:09
Ramon, I join to this

Ramon, I join to this questions, and want to ask you - why didn't you do it with some of your boyfriends? I think that you had serious relations, and was thinking a lot about parenting, so as I understand - they were not ready for such serious step? And when and why did you decide that this is your last chance? 

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Ramon
Last seen: 1 year 4 months ago
Joined: 10/27/2016 - 14:43
Hi, Patrick! My daughter is

Hi, Patrick! My daughter is one month old now. So she is still so little and sometimes I am afraid to take her in my hands….she seems so unprotected…and little…as for the second child I wrote it will happen in case when I find my beloved man and then we will decide it together. I think it is very important question. Or maybe he will be against surrogacy and will wish to try adoption. Who knows? But to tell the truth son will be perfect. Every man should have son. Ben, I am the type of person who thinks that the opinion of others is unnecessary. I decided that I want to become dad and what say my relatives and friends is not important. Who cares what do others think? I don’t! and what about you? 

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Patrick
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 10/18/2016 - 17:09
Somewhere, deeply inside I

Somewhere, deeply inside I agree with you, someone's opinion is really unnecessary, especially in this situation... but my partner don't think so, and sometimes we have a lot of problems because of it... So, as I understood, you are a brave man, and you are ready for adoption in future?

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Ben_R
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 10/23/2016 - 13:36
Ramon - so you do want to

Ramon - so you do want to find the couple eventually? that is good to hear! Even though you broke my stereotype here about being a single parent - I still can not imagine being a single parent with two small kids on your hands) If you would go that far - I think your story would worth of the TV program at least)) How are you going to look for your partner - are you doing this already, if you not mind me asking? and speaking about the son. You know what is PGD, right? you have the possibility to have the son trough the surrogacy - with a guarantee.. And no adoption. what would you prefer in this case? Surrogacy, as I understand?

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Patrick
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
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Ben, he wrote already that it

Ben, he wrote already that it also depends from the decision of his future boyfriend, and he is even ready for adoption... This is not my case, and you didn't ask me, but i think that now Ramon is not thinking about relations, because his daughter is too small, and i think that because of it, and because of his work he hardly has time to go to the shower, but not for a date. Am I right?

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Ramon
Last seen: 1 year 4 months ago
Joined: 10/27/2016 - 14:43
To tell the truth I am really

To tell the truth I am really glad that I managed to break your stereotypes. I hate them by the way. I don’t know why you speak about single father with two kids. I have only one and the second child will be born only if I found my beloved man who will want to have the child too. And if he wishes to have biologically related child we will use surrogacy again, and if not if the adoption will be the best option for him I will agree. Of course I know what a PGD is. I had an all inclusive VIP package the price of which covered the PGD procedure. I wanted daughter and now I have it. 

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Patrick
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 10/18/2016 - 17:09
Ramon, sorry, I have so many

Ramon, sorry, I have so many questions... I want to be a father, so this topic is rather close to me. if it is ok, if I would ask one more question? You may not answer, if it is not comfortable, or if I am not tactful, so why did you want to have  a daughter? I read about a lot of guys here and on the other site, their stories about children, so practically all of them have or just thinking to have a son...

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Ben_R
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 10/23/2016 - 13:36
Ramon - you also said that

Ramon - you also said that the opinion of other people does not matter to you. I understand that you are speaking of the public opinion here - the opinion of the people who are completely unrelated to you. What about your friends and relatives? when you decided to start the surrogacy program - did you speak with them about this - and what opinion did they have on this behalf? Were your parents against this ? And how did they accept the child, when you brought it to them? I remember the reaction of my own parents - when I brought our daughter to their house - they were so happy) Even though they were not really sure about this "method" of having kids.. I was glad to break their stereotypes as well)

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Patrick
Last seen: 1 year 1 month ago
Joined: 10/18/2016 - 17:09
Ben, I think that he was

Ben, I think that he was talking about his relatives and friends also... Yes, we can hear their advice, but anyway - this is our choice and our life, so we have to choose what to do and how! i am glad for understanding between you and your parents, I imagine like my parents would be happy, and how they would accept our child))) they are waiting for it already

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